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      So this guy.... When he first came out I thought hypo but since he's shed he looks like an insane normal to me.... I took this without a flash inside with natural light in front of window. Thoughts?
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      Default Re: What Do You Think?

      I think that's a hypo. He has some of the quintessential "bow-tie" saddles, and even though he isn't super-pink, often that color comes in much later. There are photos posted on this forum by breeders who produced hypos that were very creamy and light as neonates that then grew up to have some incredible color.

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      His tail is so normal colored I was confused lol. I am considering keeping him. Here is what mostt of my hypos look like. Here is a normal female that also has a reduced pattern but is clearly a normal. Wish I knew my males genetics because he's AWESOME lol.
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      Now that you've posted comparison photos from the rest of the litter I'm not so sure - but I've never seen a normal with perfect little bow-ties like the boa you're asking about has. Even his normal littermate in the comparison photo doesn't have them.

      Still, I know what you mean.. Maybe he is "just" a normal; that said, if someone posted that first photo of the boa in question on this forum and said "what morph did I buy?" I would probably say hypo, for what it's worth.


      This is the thread I was talking about. Obviously the animal in question has a lot more going on than just a possible hypo gene, but it shows the color progression from creamy-pale to holy-BEANS!

      Jungle Progression - Neonate to 2.5 Years (Lots of Pics)
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      Default Re: What Do You Think?

      I'd say normal, but with strong influence from the hypo gene.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pandorasdad View Post
      I'd say normal, but with strong influence from the hypo gene.

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      I've been reading past forum posts related to hypos and I saw one where Jeff gets into the possibility of hypos being able to pass on more than just the typical hypo gene. That there's more to it than that. I've been trying to find more on it. I am gonna keep this guy and see what happens. I have an incredibly pink/red hypo I am considering keeping also. My husband is gonna kill me.... Let me know if you know anyone interested in a slightly psychotic 2012 male hypo het sharp I got from J. Stone. He should be labeled breed only unless you know a snake whisperer.....

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      Here Is one post I found. I messaged her to see If she kept breeding that "line" and what she's discovered since. I know I'm way behind the times but It's so Intriguing to me. Any links to articles or posts or even people I should talk to would be awesome. Genetics experts: RE: Hypos and Pattern Transfer
      Here's another super interesting one by the master himself lol How about a little controversy?

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      I think they are gorgeous... you keeping the female pictured... pm me what you got available...
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mrs.smith View Post
      Let me know if you know anyone interested in a slightly psychotic 2012 male hypo het sharp I got from J. Stone. He should be labeled breed only unless you know a snake whisperer.....
      Interestingly enough I have a CA mot originally bread by him that is the same way. It must be the water he gives his baby snakes.
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      Default Re: What Do You Think?

      That is a hard call. I'd say it looks like a normal. If you wait a couple of months I'm sure it would be easier.
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      Interestingly enough I have a CA mot originally bread by him that is the same way. It must be the water he gives his baby snakes.
      Haha I have a female CA hypo from him that has mood swings. One day she can be docile the next it's like a completely different snake.
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      Default Re: What Do You Think?

      It's a normal. Tail gives that way 100%.

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      I really do think that the hypo gene can transfer pattern to normal colored babies. There isn't a whole lot of evidence, but I've seen what appears to be just that more than once now.

      I'm curious as to what will happens that baby grows and ages.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ShadowAceD View Post
      It's a normal. Tail gives that way 100%.
      I'm positive he's a normal as well. I was just wondering on feedback on his clean physique lol My hypos came out incredibly clean as well. I picked their dad out of a tub of similar looking boas almost 5 years ago at a reptile show. He was such a pretty baby. He's an incredibly clean snake and passed that along to all but 2 babies.
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      The first guy number 16 is a normal. It is perfectly normal for a normal boa from a hypo pairing to have bow ties. The females - number 1 is a hypo and number 2 is a normal. The last female you posted #6 is a hypo.

      It isn't just about the bow tie saddles but color and how the hypo gene interacts. In a hypo pairing, many times normals will have bow tie saddles also.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pandorasdad View Post
      I'm curious as to what will happens that baby grows and ages
      I'm pretty set on keeping him so we will see together. There's actually a couple I might hold on to. I know I shouldn't but they are just so eye catching.
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      I wasn't meaning to ask which are normal and which are hypos lol. I'm sorry it came out that way. I can tell the difference, I swear hahaha. I was more curious as to your thoughts on him in general.

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      I would say he is a Pastel normal boa. I also agree with Pandorasdad that he has a strong influence from the hypo gene to.

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      I read it rather quickly so I misunderstood. Overall the normals look really nice. I am happy you had a good litter.

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      Quote Originally Posted by McCarthyBoas View Post
      I would say he is a Pastel normal boa.
      I don't know about pastel. He's really clean though.


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      Quote Originally Posted by weird_science04 View Post
      I read it rather quickly so I misunderstood. Overall the normals look really nice. I am happy you had a good litter.

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