Bolivian Boa Breeding - Page 2

The_Boaphile · #11 07-15-2009, 07:43 PM

Feed them and breed them. Just like in the book. I breed my Bolivians the same way I do Colombians. Works very well. Your Boas are beautiful! They look like they probably have a scale count in the mid 80's to me. Somewhat larger scales than that of most Constrictor constrictor. Quite variable too apparently. That older one with the reduced pattern is really nice. Did that come from the Santa Cruz area or someplace further North and East?

I would LOVE to see more pictures of the animals that you are working with! Great stuff!

Bentley · #12 07-17-2009, 12:20 PM

your right, bolivian boas are extremely variable... this is due to Bolivia being right in the middle of south america. it is probably the country with the widest variety of climates in south america. Boa Constrictor C. probably blends in with B. C. Amarali in the north (departments of Pando and Beni) and the amarali probably blends in with the occidentallis in the south bordering Argentina (department of Tarija). this gives us an extremely high variability in our boas, including size, color and paterns...
the yellow female you ask of, unfortunately I dont have info on its specific origin. I do know that boas from the area in Santa Cruz are mostly dark brown and completely pattern like the large female i show and like the large female you own. but you dont have to travel far from the city to start noticing diferences in boas. travel 45 km. north to Portachuelo for example (1 hour drive) and you begin to notice changes... and similar way in diferent direccions.
I did recieve a very large female last year that had a bad respiratory infeccion (around 8.5 ft) she was very yellow in color just like my small female but she had a complete pattern and no peaks. dispite my efforts she died. the owner was a local witch doctor that sold natural medicine made of boa guts (he claimed) to enhance penes size... LOL! he used the poor animal to resemble the sizes his medicins could achieve... LOL
he said he had cought her in Puerto Suarez, this is on the border with Brazil way east of Santa Cruz in the Pantanal area. I past through Puerto Suarez last year and observed that the vegetation was a bit different with a lot of yellow tall grass which gave the land vew a more yellow tone. perhaps boas are lighter in color in these areas because of this.
So to conclude, based on color, the small female could originate from somewhere east as you say!

but i cant explain the incomplete pattern, do you know of boas that come from north east of santa cruz? she had a sibbling that had only a complete stripe from head to tail!! beautiful!! that my cousin kept. my cousin had the whole litter donated to him by the zoo because they didnt have space enough. the zoo probaly had recieved a gravid female that gave birth to these. this was long ago.... we were little kids and didnt know a thing about boas, other than that we liked them lol... the only two left are the pair of yellows i have.
i will post pictures of all my snakes and tell you where each one is from (the ones i know).
I sent you an email some time ago. maybe 6 months ago. i dont know if you recieved it. it had a word document attached to it with discriptions, pictures of boas and nature here in santa cruz, and some questions regarding the breeding of these animals along with it. its pretty interesting i think. I still have it saved, so let me know and I´ll email it to you

reptileking77 · #13 07-17-2009, 12:45 PM

i just wanted to say thanks for what your doing to make shore our chidren still have wild snakes in the wild and not just in pet stores and zoos,we need more people like you insted of just breeding to line your pockets your trying to make a difference: thank you

:bounci ng2

Bentley · #14 07-20-2009, 05:32 PM

syn13 · #15 07-20-2009, 05:55 PM

what are the under bellies of Bolivian Boa's like? are they speckled or plain?
And what colour do they tend to be?

Bentley · #16 07-20-2009, 11:00 PM

here are some pics of more bolivians
this is a male from the outer areas of the city of Santa Cruz. notice the brown color and the complete pattern with no peaks

here is another male from the department of Beni. he is very silver in color, has complete pattern and little peaks

this is a dark colored male. I dont know his origin but he has ben with for 16 years aprox. (he is the one breeding the large female posted earlier)

this is one of the yellow siblings i mentioned earlier (the male) which bred
the female shown in HCP

here is a small female from east of Santa Cruz but not to far
she is still brown but her pattern is a little less complete.

here is a male y found last year at our ranch in Portachuelo (50 Km. north of santa cruz). he was probably new born when y found him. he is completely patterned but is not as dark colored as the ones close to the city.

Boa Amarali · #17 07-20-2009, 11:11 PM

I'm a big fan of this one especially ,
that is a beautiful Boa !

This one is interesting Looking

This one looks alot like a Bcc

Thanks again for posting more pictures,these are wonderful
examples of Bolivian Boa

Do any of these have that little patch of white scale under the chin area ?

Bentley · #18 07-22-2009, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syn13

what are the under bellies of Bolivian Boa's like? are they speckled or plain?
And what colour do they tend to be?

I find their bellies to be mostly speckled. the belly colour seems to match the overall coloration of the Boa, which in Bolivia can be very variable...

And also for Boa Amarali´s question, YES a lot of them do have the white patch under the chin.

Bentley · #19 07-22-2009, 10:21 PM

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syn13 · #20 07-23-2009, 08:35 AM

Sorry to go off topic slightly.

What are the chances of these boas being sold accidently as common boa's?
One of my common boas seems to share some similarities to the Bolivian boa's. and the shape of is head is a little more arrow shaped then other common bos'a Ive seen.
very slim I'd say, but just wondering