RE: Pastel vs Jungle??

[Boa Amarali]

Pastel vs Jungle??

Pastel Boa,Term "Pastel" coined by Jeff Ronne As well as the appearance of Pastel in Boa Constrictors was identified by Jeff Ronne.
Below is Mr. Ronne's Definition of Pastel

A Pastel is this: A Boa that has an odd overall wash lacking the normal amount of black and a reduction in black pigmentation in particular throughout the pattern. This is particularly apparent in babies, which have the same kind of washed out pattern as Hypos. The saddles as well as the side blotches have less black than " normal ". In fact, often the side blotches have no black whatsoever. That's it, no more no less.
Pastel is a selectively bred polygenic trait.
Some People believe the Pastel trait has something to do with color. It really does not. The Pastel trait removes black pigment allowing the color underneath to be seen.
Plus in my opinion there are varying degrees of Pastel in Boas.
Although when you see a really nice Pastel Boa you know it is Pastel.

The Jungle Boa
Lars Brandle of Sweden was the first to produce Jungle Boas. Peter Kahl imported some of these into the states and continued to work with them. He identified the Jungle Boas as a Codominant trait. This means a Jungle Boa has 2 distinct appearances. 1 appearance for a "normal Jungle"(Heterozygous 1 normal gene, 1 mutant gene)Then there is a different appearance for the Super Jungle Boa (Homozygous 2 mutant genes). There are distinct visual differences in the two types. So to be a Jungle Boa it must come from the Swedish Bloodline as well as have identifiable Jungle Characteristics. There are many identifiable characteristics in Jungle boas. Not every Jungle has every characteristic though.
The number 1 most obvious characteristic is an aberrant pattern.Often extremely crazy striped or chain link type patterns exist. Also holes/circles can exist in the saddles pattern. Less aberrant Boas usually show degree of this not always.Then you have a dark thin border around tail blotches often body saddles have darker borders as well not as defined as tail.There most often is a Lateral to Dorsal color difference.A creamy buck skin type color Dorsally is quite common. With a distinct line of color that changes laterally.Unusual Dorsal Line head marking can be split or almost arrow like in shape and appearance.I've also always thought many baby Jungles appear to have an elongated head some what.
The best way to learn how to identify Jungle Boas would be to look at pictures of known Jungle(meaning from Swedish Line)or better yet look at them in person. Once you see a true solid Jungle you understand it looks like no other Boa type.Once you grasp that then you can start to form opinions about "Low Expression Jungles" and Salmon or Hypo Jungles.
Hope this helps

Pictures of some of my Pastel Boas
From The Pastel Dream Line
Addrianna '03 Pastel Dream Het Albino






'08 Pastel Dreams& Scarlet Hypo Pastel produced here






PDShry08_6 baby pics








PDShry08_8 baby pics












Pic of My '07 Jungle Het Albino Het stripe






Couple pics of Peter Kahls Jungles @ Tinley Park NARBC 2008






a Jungle Boa can also be Pastel with Pastel traits
this would make it a very clean
possibly colorful Jungle Boa

I've included a Link below to KS Boa Morph page.
It's in need of updating.
Kingsnake Boa Morphs
Also below link to Jungle story on Peter Kahl site

, . . . . Lar M


Jungle Boa Peter Kahl
Jungle Boa Peter Kahl

[Iceman2197]

Thanks for the info

[dsimpson]

Always happy to learn new information!

[Boa Amarali]

Originally Posted by Iceman2197

Thanks for the info

Hope its been of some help to you

Originally Posted by dsimpson

Always happy to learn new information!

Glad to hear you found this informative.

Thanks,

. . . Lar M

[BigPaPaErnest]

Wicked post Lar...thanks! Could i have my jungle back now?

[Boa Amarali]

Originally Posted by BigPaPaErnest

Wicked post Lar...thanks! Could i have my jungle back now?

He's in the mail "E" ,LOL

[dangles]

a little bit older thread, but i will bumpttt because it's worth the read! thanks, lar!

[Boa Amarali]

No problem,glad you find some of these words helpful !

[Boa Amarali]

Shameless plug of my Jungle Pos het VPI Caramel litter

Here are the Jungles from my 5-06-09 Jungle Pos Het VPI Caramel litter.
There appears to be some interesting influence with all of these


First pic this girl is spoken for by a forum member


Same girl Female Jungle



The most colorful Fem Jungle she was in the original baby shots alone in front








You can see her Kool White tipped Tongue here














This one is very similar to the previous couple pics. But this is a different Jungle 1 male 1 female they both have that little Kitty cat mark and extremely red tails

[Boa Amarali]

Here is a Male I call Infinitas because heas the sign for infinity on his last saddle before the tail saddles start
He's with the reddest fem Jungle


































Thanks for looking ,hope you
enjoy them as much as I do