My new Sharp Sunglow Boa

[MikebNJ]

Hello all,

First time poster. I am a ball python man and just got my first Boa from the recent Hamburg reptile show in PA. I wanted to post some pics and get some opinions on my girl. I researched the Sharp line and Kahl line for weeks as well as the albino morphs (lipstick, sunglow, coral ect.)


I bought a 1.5 year old female Sharp Sunglow from a reputable breeder known as Red Dog Reptiles. She was $450 which I believe was a good price. I love her tail pattern. She is in shed now so she is still a little dull. What do you guys think? Did I do good for $450? I trust that its a Sharp line unless someone here knows better.

[Joba1972]

Re: My new Sharp Sunglow Boa

Very nice. Congrats on moving over to the better snakes

[Greenwood]

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Nice and nice price. I jut picked up a 8 month old female EBV Redgroup/ Tom Burke Lipstickline sunglow for $400. Now gotta wait till Tuesday to get her. Here are a couple of pics. From what I know of them, sharps will yellow out less than kahls but that seems to be the big difference. $450 seems cheap for a sharp but if the breeder is trustworthy and said it is a sharp, then I guess it is. You will know when the snake gets older and if it yellows out on you. Did he show you pictures of any older siblings he kept? That will give you a better idea.

[MikebNJ]

Re: My new Sharp Sunglow Boa

Nice and nice price. I jut picked up a 8 month old female EBV Redgroup/ Tom Burke Lipstickline sunglow for $400. Now gotta wait till Tuesday to get her. Here are a couple of pics. From what I know of them, sharps will yellow out less than kahls but that seems to be the big difference. $450 seems cheap for a sharp but if the breeder is trustworthy and said it is a sharp, then I guess it is. You will know when the snake gets older and if it yellows out on you. Did he show you pictures of any older siblings he kept? That will give you a better idea.

Nice snake. I didn't see any other pics.

[bebowebb]

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Congrats on the nice new addition!

[Greenwood]

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Should have asked if he had any pics of the parents or any sibling holdbacks he kept. The guy I got mine from had pics of her 2 year old brother and it held a lot of its red and only yellowed lightly. The lighting in the picture wasn't the best but you could still see that this girl I got should hold up well with age. But like I said, if the breeder you got yours from is trustworthy, then it should hold up well as sharps hold whites better or at least that's what I gathered from my reading up on them. Regardless though, if you enjoy the snake, that's all that really matters as you are going to have her a long time.

[minguss]

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beautiful
Sharps are my favorite

[MikebNJ]

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this is our exchange in emails....

[Reinz15]

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Congrats on your Beauty!

[MikebNJ]

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She shed!!!! Do you guys and gals still think she is a Sharp Sunglow? Looks like a coral to me now.

[MikebNJ]

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Sharp Sunglow or Coral?

[bebowebb]

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I would still lean toward the Sharp Sunglow. Sharps can gain plenty of color, but I do not see any of the typical blushing seen in Coral lines.

It could be as simple as a slip of the tongue, but I noticed that the breeder referred to his transactions with his breeding partner as "we trade out clutches to get diversity". Most knowledgeable and reputable breeders understand that egg bearing snakes give clutches and those that give live births have litters. That would be a minor concern for me, but in the same breath - that is the only thing I have seen from said breeder, so I do not want to develop an opinion of him/her based on that one statement alone.

It boils down to the fact that breeding trials will be the only guaranteed way to confirm that your Sunglow is Sharp strain. Breeding it to anything else that is Sharp or het Sharp should produce a nice litter.

Either way, I'd say you have a very beautiful animal that you obtained for a good price. Unless this is a key player in a breeding project, all that truly matters is that you are happy with your Sunglow.

[MikebNJ]

Re: My new Sharp Sunglow Boa

I would still lean toward the Sharp Sunglow. Sharps can gain plenty of color, but I do not see any of the typical blushing seen in Coral lines.

It could be as simple as a slip of the tongue, but I noticed that the breeder referred to his transactions with his breeding partner as "we trade out clutches to get diversity". Most knowledgeable and reputable breeders understand that egg bearing snakes give clutches and those that give live births have litters. That would be a minor concern for me, but in the same breath - that is the only thing I have seen from said breeder, so I do not want to develop an opinion of him/her based on that one statement alone.

It boils down to the fact that breeding trials will be the only guaranteed way to confirm that your Sunglow is Sharp strain. Breeding it to anything else that is Sharp or het Sharp should produce a nice litter.

Either way, I'd say you have a very beautiful animal that you obtained for a good price. Unless this is a key player in a breeding project, all that truly matters is that you are happy with your Sunglow.

I appreciate the response! I am not a breeder so this is just a pet. I do love her and the colors. I am very anal about things and I purely wanted to get a definite answer as to what she was. She is 1.5 years old and has the light yellowing and the orange colors that go along with the Sharp strain, it was just the side brushing of colors that made me think maybe Coral.

[tsblair]

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Looks like a coral to me now

The term "Coral" can only be used in reference to a particular line of Kahl Albinos. Oftentimes people misuse the term in order to raise the prices of a litter. For example, there is no such thing as a "het Coral". Coral is a polygenic trait found in some boas that must be able to be traced back to Pete Kahls founding stock. Just because an albino has some blushing (most do btw), doesn't make it a Coral Albino.

[MikebNJ]

Re: My new Sharp Sunglow Boa

The term "Coral" can only be used in reference to a particular line of Kahl Albinos. Oftentimes people misuse the term in order to raise the prices of a litter. For example, there is no such thing as a "het Coral". Coral is a polygenic trait found in some boas that must be able to be traced back to Pete Kahls founding stock. Just because an albino has some blushing (most do btw), doesn't make it a Coral Albino.

Yes understood. What I meant is that it looked like a Coral Kahl line instead of the Sharp line. What do you think?