Regurgitating

[onesweetguy632]

Hey my red tail just Regurgitated. I would say it was like 99% digested. I just got him on friday. They fed him hoppers on wednesday. He did this about 30 minutes after I misted the tank really good. It got it pretty humid. Any ideas why he did this?

[ClayEnglish]

Re: Regurgitating

Did you just get the redtail on Friday?

If so, I can tell you that regurgitation is normally cause by a few standard issues.

1) STRESS! This is probably the number one cause of regurgitation. If the boa was that new to your environment. It could have been just too plain stressful, with the change in environment, change in food items, change in humidity levels, misting the boa, on and on and on.

2) Temperature problems. If your temps are outside the gradient of 80 to 90 degrees, then regurgitation could surely occur because of that. Wrong temperature ranges cause the food item to actually spoil inside the boa, and then it comes up.

I would allow the boa to acclimate to the new environment and to the new conditions of this new environment. Once settled in, try feeding again. If this was truly a regurgitation it is important to allow several days for the boa to build its stomach fluids back up before you feed again, or else you could be in for another regurgitation, and this is not something you want to start, because it can be hard to stop.

[onesweetguy632]

Re: Regurgitating

Did you just get the redtail on Friday?

If so, I can tell you that regurgitation is normally cause by a few standard issues.

1) STRESS!   This is probably the number one cause of regurgitation.  If the boa was that new to your environment. It could have been just too plain stressful, with the change in environment, change in food items, change in humidity levels, misting the boa, on and on and on.

2) Temperature problems.  If your temps are outside the gradient of 80 to 90 degrees, then regurgitation could surely occur because of that.  Wrong temperature ranges cause the food item to actually spoil inside the boa, and then it comes up.

I would allow the boa to acclimate to the new environment and to the new conditions of this new environment.  Once settled in, try feeding again.  If this was truly a regurgitation it is important to allow several days for the boa to build its stomach fluids back up before you feed again, or else you could be in for another regurgitation, and this is not something you want to start, because it can be hard to stop.

Yes Clay I just got him on friday 3/21. Before I got him they said he was fed on that wednnesday. His hot spot is at 89 degress and cool about 81. I use a red 90 watt flood light. I keeps it nice and toasty in here. I found it odd because I had just got done misting him about 20 to 30 minutes prior. He definatly did regurgitate. I watched him when he did it. So what would be a good day to try and feed him again?

[Blackmarked]

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Hey man I am not an expert like Clay but I would recomend waiting at least one week before trying to feed again. Gives the boa time to get used to the new surrondings and as Clay said build up the nessasary stomach contents so it can digest it's next meal.
Good luck.

[onesweetguy632]

Re: Regurgitating

Hey man I am not an expert like Clay but I would recomend waiting at least one week before trying to feed again. Gives the boa time to get used to the new surrondings and as Clay said build up the nessasary stomach contents so it can digest it's next meal.
Good luck.  

Sounds fine to me!!! Thanks

[tatdaddy]

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If your snake just regured you should waite at least two weeks to let the snake build its stomach acids back up. Also this will give your snake time to settel in.
have you been handleing your snake alot? If so I would just let him/her be for about a week just to get settled. Just change the water every day make sure the humidity is up between 50 and 70 should be fine. One last thing you need to het that hot spot up to about 95 give or take a few. Try this and let me know how things come out. Have you read the care guides provied by Clay? They have tons of info in there. I still go through and read from time to time just to make sure I don't forget somethings.

[Xander]

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Everytime i get a new boa i always wait a week or 2 before i feed it. Its not going to kill it if it misses one week of eating. And a good rule is that if you mist the cage remember just that its a mist dont try and drown the boa. Execpt for when i mist my emeralds it seems like i use a lot of water cause the cage is so big.....

[Doug]

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Hi,
Its hard to make that baby wait a while to feed, but from several different post I ve read around the web it seems that snakes have a very difficult time recovering from regurge becuase they loose alot of stomach acid this takes time for them to replace and is critical for that bone digestions.
  Second the gut flora may have been lost this can also cause the growth of abnormal bacteria with digestion that could lead to fermentation by bacteria in the rats gut this process can release some nasty bacteriatoxins that dosen't occur in normal boa's .. so rest is the critical point with regurge recovery.
 You were surprised when your snake regurged when you sprayed his cage down, think what may have been the scariest moment in his day when the big guy was moving around and making all that noise.and he dosent understand your his buddy yet .
   One really commonly found problem with digestion problems is cool side temp.. Just cause the warm side is 88 degree's be sure the cool side isn't 75..One very easy way to increase humidty is have two water dishes one on each side of the cage bigger is better, them babies usally poo in them and it seems to help them pass urates. Throw a towel over the cool side this help hold some heat and humidity, be sure it dosen't touch any part of that light or you gonna have a really big heat problem you house may burn down..
 doug   ok I am really finsihed...

 I hope this helps   doug
 ..
   

[onesweetguy632]

Re: Regurgitating

Hi,
Its hard to make that baby wait a while to feed, but from several different post I ve read around the web it seems that snakes have a very difficult time recovering from regurge becuase they loose alot of stomach acid this takes time for them to replace and is critical for that bone digestions.
  Second the gut flora may have been lost this can also cause the growth of abnormal bacteria with digestion that could lead to fermentation by bacteria in the rats gut this process can release some nasty bacteriatoxins that dosen't occur in normal boa's .. so rest is the critical point with regurge recovery.
 You were surprised when your snake regurged when you sprayed his cage down, think what may have been the scariest moment in his day when the big guy was moving around and making all that noise.and he dosent understand your his buddy yet .
   One really commonly found problem with digestion problems is cool side temp.. Just cause the warm side is 88 degree's be sure the cool side isn't 75..One very easy way to increase humidty is have two water dishes one on each side of the cage bigger is better, them babies usally poo in them and it seems to help them pass urates. Throw a towel over the cool side this help hold some heat and humidity, be sure it dosen't touch any part of that light or you gonna have a really big heat problem you house may burn down..
 doug   ok I am really finsihed...

 I hope this helps   doug
 ..
   

Hey Doug yeah I can understand him getting nervous and all. Just worried me. At this time I was still using a towel for his bottom. Now I use cypress mulch which hold humidity very very well. He seems alot happier. I gave him a great hide spot which sits right on the under the tank heater and keeps him nice and warm. His hot spot is like 95 and cool 82. I will try feeding him not this friday but next. He looks like he is getting dull and ready to shed so we'll she what happens! Thanks for the help.

[Doug]

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Hi,
With that shed coming on I never feed, and usally leave a blue or pre shed boa alone, it takes a lot to shed and they are usally a bit cranky...many animals will not feed until after the shed.
mine usally shed pass their urates in the shed and usally poo the same nite from all the shedding activity.. the cage is usally a mess to say the least and sometime they spalsh around in the water dish. : :P hehe you gotta love that smell.

doug

[onesweetguy632]

Re: Regurgitating

Hi,
With that shed coming on I never feed, and usally leave a blue or pre shed boa alone, it takes a lot to shed and they are usally a bit cranky...many animals will not feed until after the shed.
mine usally shed pass their urates in the shed and usally poo the same nite from all the shedding activity.. the cage is usally a mess to say the least and sometime they spalsh around in the water dish.  : :P   hehe you gotta love that smell.

 doug  

Oh yeah I am sure it smells just great lol. His eyes are getting rather dim and dull now. How long does it usually take for him to complete his shed?

[Xander]

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Regurgitation is one of the worst things for me. Emeralds are the hardest to get to eat. Sometimes i think they've takin it in and i come back later to check on it and there the partly digested rat is, but recently they have all become aclimated now.

[ClayEnglish]

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Great point Xander!

Very seldom does regurgitaion become a sevier or even serious problems with BCI boas, but as you have stated, regurgitation in Emeralds is a life threating problem. Emeralds are where the term "regurgitation syndrome" came from....

It is possible to create and environment where even BCI's can develop regurgitation syndrome, but it is not that common.

Anything possible should be done to help prevent a second regurgitation, and by simply waiting a couple of extra weeks, is one of the best ways to help.