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**redtailedmel** · 03-25-2003, 03:55 PM

Re: Calci Sand

beach towel is original but hey if it works

;D i use calci sand but its kinda expensive i have a 7x2x2 300 gallon tank and it cost me 160 to cover the bottom efficiently. i dont feed on it though, itsays it is safe and has vitamins and things in it,and not harmful if swallowed, but i feed in a seperate tank

**onesweetguy632** · 03-25-2003, 04:32 PM

Re: Calci Sand

beach towel is original but hey if it works

;D i use calci sand but its kinda expensive i have a 7x2x2 300 gallon tank and it cost me 160 to cover the bottom efficiently. i dont feed on it though, itsays it is safe and has vitamins and things in it,and not harmful if swallowed, but i feed in a seperate tank

Yeah he seems to like it. Well right now I only have a 10 gallon tank so one or two bags should work good for now. At my local pet place it's 6.99 a bag. I used to buy it with my bearded dragons. I know that it conducted heat real well. I used to have black and U know how black absorbes the heat. I am just wondering about humitiy. I just figure if it is calci sand it can't be bad.

**tatdaddy** · 03-26-2003, 07:32 AM

Re: Calci Sand

Here is something to thimk about. If you are going to do for the decrative look in your cage boas are from the jungle not the desert. Well rosie boas are but you understand.

Tatdaddy

**onesweetguy632** · 03-26-2003, 07:56 AM

Re: Calci Sand

Here is something to thimk about. If you are going to do for the decrative look in your cage boas are from the jungle not the desert. Well rosie boas are but you understand.

Tatdaddy

Thats very true. I was just wondering if it will hurt them in anyway.

**eViL_KaRoT** · 03-26-2003, 08:06 AM

Re: Calci Sand

I wouldn't think that it would hurt them in any way, but it probably won't hold humidity very well. Honestly, I wouldn't use it, but that's just me.

**onesweetguy632** · 03-26-2003, 08:42 AM

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I wouldn't think that it would hurt them in any way, but it probably won't hold humidity very well. Honestly, I wouldn't use it, but that's just me.

Well I used it use it for my bearded dragons and it did hold the humidity the best it did well if you misted the tank really good. I used to do that 2 to 3 times a week.

**Damian** · 03-26-2003, 08:55 AM

Re: Calci Sand

red tails are not desert dwelling animals so i would never advise using sand as a substrate. if ingested sand will cause a whole host of internal problems that you would rather not have to deal with. even if you are feeding in another enclosure i still would advise using something besides sand. personally i use cypress mulch which all my snakes seem to love, it holds humidity better than any other substrate i have used, spot cleaning is easy, and you cant beat the price per bag.

**onesweetguy632** · 03-26-2003, 10:46 AM

Re: Calci Sand

red tails are not desert dwelling animals so i would never advise using sand as a substrate. if ingested sand will cause a whole host of internal problems that you would rather not have to deal with. even if you are feeding in another enclosure i still would advise using something besides sand. personally i use cypress mulch which all my snakes seem to love, it holds humidity better than any other substrate i have used, spot cleaning is easy, and you cant beat the price per bag.

Does the cypress mulch ever have any mites or anything like that?

**eViL_KaRoT** · 03-26-2003, 10:58 AM

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At times, it may. That is why it is reccomended that you bake it at about 200 degrees for a few minutes, that'll kill off any of those pesky little buggers. Or you could pretreat it with Sawyers tick spray or Prevent-a-mite. I, myself just use plain old newspaper or paper towels. It may not look at nice, but it's really cheap and easy to clean up after a mess. Plus it is more sanitary.

**redtailedmel** · 03-26-2003, 11:27 AM

Re: Calci Sand

my aquarium is glass and has a plexiglass top i have no problems with heat or humitity and like i said i use it and she doesnt seem to mind it either she likes it lmao ,always playing on it. and as im sure you know it does reall well with water and stuff too hardly ever really have to do much to it except every now and then you can bake it and stuff.

**onesweetguy632** · 03-26-2003, 12:33 PM

Re: Calci Sand

my aquarium is glass and has a plexiglass top i have no problems with heat or humitity and like i said i use it and she doesnt seem to mind it either she likes it lmao ,always playing on it. and as im sure you know it does reall well with water and stuff too hardly ever really have to do much to it except every now and then you can bake it and stuff.

Did you buy the lid or make it? What do you use to heat the tank?

**tatdaddy** · 03-26-2003, 01:28 PM

Re: Calci Sand

Look at it like this the sand is $ and could cause problems. The aspen, cypress mulch, news paper is the only stuff that I would use. It is less $ and looks better.
That and the one reason that leads me to think that it might not be good to use for redtails is this, Clay doesn't use it nor does Mr. Ronne. Now if they aren't useing it that just might say something. Just my 02.

Tatdaddy

**ClayEnglish** · 03-26-2003, 02:07 PM

Re: Calci Sand

I would not ever use calci-sand for the large boas. I have never been one to recommend a sand substrate. I believe it to be irritating to the boas skin and it often causes impactation and mouth problems in the large boas, because it is extremely fine and gets in between the skin folds of the boa.

I know some people use it and if it works for them and it is closely monitored, then that's okay. Just not what I recommend. Especially with so many preferrable substrates available today..

Also that extremely "fine" sand is used a lot for the desert boas (sand boas), which are equipped to handle it without problem.

**redtailedmel** · 03-26-2003, 03:17 PM

Re: Calci Sand

oops fprgot to mention how i heat it i have a 100 watt che and a 50 watt che one end stays at a constant 80 deg and the other at the bottom is 85-88 and up top usually is around 90-95 and my humitity stays at 60-65 usually of course i live in tx so thats about right. i also have 4 huge water bowls in there too thats helps hehe with out 2 of the bowls it stays at about 50-55 humid. as far as the mulch we use it on our ball python but, with the baby we have her on the calci for now , when she gets bigger she will be on something diff cuz like clay said it gets irritated we ran into that prob with a friends boas, but this doesnt seem to be like the zoo med sand , that kind was like dirt this that i have is kinda like little pebbley looking stones that are tiny lol ( that makes alot of cense doesnt it lmao ) sry for the explination

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