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  • [Behavior] Striking!

    Ok, so i have a bit of a new behavior lately from Granite. She is a Bolivian BCA. Over the past month or so, at evening time when she is most active, she is striking at me and my wife from inside the enclosure. She obviously keeps slamming into the plex door which is not good to begin with. She has been pretty consistent in doing this.

    A few months ago, she had just started doing this randomly. The last time i posted about this, we thought she was hungry because her feeding schedule was inconsistent at the time and she was only this aggressive at feeding time and a few days after being fed.

    It suggested to just drape a sheet over the plex so that she wouldn't have the temptation in front of her. I admit that I did not implement this because i pretty much tried to stay out of the office (where her enclosure is) a few days after feeding. This worked out really well for the past 2-3 months, so i figured just stick to whats working before i introduce the sheets. (my reasoning for not hanging the sheets was because i felt it went against the purpose of having a really big plex door so i could look in and admire the beauty with in).

    I am strongly thinking about adding it....and permanently, but i want to understand a bit more before i go through doing this. I dont understand why the behavior just started happening and what in the world its a result of.

    Now, she is going after us through the glass at least once a night and its many days now after she has been fed. She has a full belly, so i know it can't be out of hunger (or at least i think). Her feeding has remained consistent.

    Im wondering if it has something to do with her "maturing" because she is four years old this year, or if its a seasonal thing? Is it mating season or something? Or is this a behavior thats going to continue? What is happening?

    Just a note, if i open her enclosure (right after a strike), i normally take a sheet and throw it over her head real quick and that put my hands on her and she goes to her normal self (or what i have been used to for the past 4 years). I know when she's "on the hunt" because her pupils dilate and she has that "look"....she is always in this mode when striking. After touch her, you can tell right away that she "changes" because her pupils go back to normal and i can just pull her out and handle her with no problems.

    Looking forward to learning a bit! Thanks for any input.
    Jason
    0.1 Bolivian BCA-Granite
    1.0 S. Brazilian BCA-Flare

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    i had a similar issue with a big girl , and now i have this on one of that boas plexiglass door , its vinyl window tint that blocks 95% of the light. I can see in the cage well enough but she isnt bothered by me walking by. Just cut it to shape and make it a little wet and stick it on the plex door . comes off as needed , no glue or anything , just re-wet it and re apply it. very cheap comes in a roll.

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    • #3
      Re: Striking!

      Sounds like "permanent feed-mode" to me...some snakes are this way much more than others. The trouble is, they don't recognize us visually...but they do through scent & touch. You have to find ways to make
      that work for you, and modify the cage (if need be) so they don't hurt themselves.

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      • #4
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        Usually abrupt changes in behavior stem from an abrupt environmental change. I'm sure you have thought to double and triple check temps and humidity but it's always worth mentioning. It sounds like she is stressed but the question is why? Think long and hard about any even minor (to you) changes that may have affected her and prompted this behavior. Good luck with her and keep us posted.
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        • #5
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          I have a variety of snakes that get a lot foodier during the spring, including one of my garters, both of my female king snakes, two of my boas, and a ton of my ball pythons. While most don't truly fast over the winter (except for my <expletive deleted> ball pythons), they're obviously not quite as hungry and even my "solid feeders" refuse a meal periodically, so I offer smaller prey and space feedings out so I'm not wasting f/t feeders. The temperature and humidity in the snake room really don't seem to matter either, even in their enclosures they know what time of year it is. Maybe it's related to the amount of light they get each day?

          Anyway, around mid-March the food drive really kicks back in and I start seeing behavior like you describe, so I know it's time to bump up the feedings.

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          • #6
            Re: Striking!

            Originally posted by Tekpc007 View Post
            its vinyl window tint that blocks 95% of the light.
            you know, I'm a Sign Guy and i never even thought about this. Great Idea.
            Jason
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            1.0 S. Brazilian BCA-Flare

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by zamora View Post
              I'm sure you have thought to double and triple check temps and humidity but it's always worth mentioning.Think long and hard about any even minor (to you) changes that may have affected her and prompted this behavior.
              Yeah, i keep the enclosures pretty darn close to perfect at all times. Its somewhat automated so i dont have to manage much, but they are look sweet.

              I can't think of any changes off the bat, but that doesn't mean anything.....i need to ponder this more.
              Jason
              0.1 Bolivian BCA-Granite
              1.0 S. Brazilian BCA-Flare

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              • #8
                Re: Striking!

                Originally posted by Tekpc007 View Post
                i had a similar issue with a big girl , and now i have this on one of that boas plexiglass door , its vinyl window tint that blocks 95% of the light. I can see in the cage well enough but she isnt bothered by me walking by. Just cut it to shape and make it a little wet and stick it on the plex door . comes off as needed , no glue or anything , just re-wet it and re apply it. very cheap comes in a roll.

                Black Magic, Insta Cling, Jumbo 5%

                Amazon.com: Black Magic, Insta Cling, Jumbo 5%: Automotive
                [MENTION=16278]Tekpc007[/MENTION]
                I just ordered this because the sheet thing doesn't do it for me...lol. Did you put this on the enclosure side or the outside? Wasn't sure how it would act in the high humidity?
                Jason
                0.1 Bolivian BCA-Granite
                1.0 S. Brazilian BCA-Flare

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                • #9
                  Re: Striking!

                  outside on the plexi , mist it a bit and it will stick nicley

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                  • #10
                    Re: Striking!

                    So i have had the window tint on for several months now and at first it seemed to have helped...BUT she started striking the glass again. Which is crazy, because while we can see through it but its really really dark! I am amazed that she can actually pick us up through the tint.

                    I have been observing her more and more through the tint the past few weeks and she has been right up on the glass while i am working at the computer (which is right next to the enclosure), and when i get up from my chair to go do something, BAM. She just nails it.

                    I have been so confused by this, because as soon as i open up the enclosure, she see's me clearly and backs off.

                    I decided to do a little test and If i keep the enclosure door OPEN, she just chills as normal. WHAT IS THIS ABOUT!!!???? I don't get it.

                    She strikes at us, when door is up and no tint and also WITH the tint. I open the doors and she's like "whats up?".....

                    So recently i have been working at the computer with the enclosure wide open and life is grand.

                    @Tekpc007 @zamora [MENTION=5116]McCarthyBoas[/MENTION]
                    Jason
                    0.1 Bolivian BCA-Granite
                    1.0 S. Brazilian BCA-Flare

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                    • #11
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                      "What's up" is that in a closed cage, she is forced to rely on her vision to detect motion...which is NOT a snake's best sense. With the door open, she can flick her tongue for the "rest of the story"....she's reading
                      the air by scent. Just don't wear any "rat cologne"! And I wouldn't swing my hand within reach of her either, since a split-second decision may fail a snake just as easily as it does us.

                      I do hope that life stays grand with the door open...but if that were me, I know that sooner or later I'd get distracted & when I got back, we'd be playing "hide and seek", lol...

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                      • #12
                        Re: Striking!

                        Ditto what [MENTION=13772]Noelle7206[/MENTION] said and also, might there be a bit of a reflection on her side with the tint? She could be striking at her own movement? Just a thought.
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                        • #13
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                          Zamora brought up a good point too, that reflection might be part of the problem...combined with your movement on the outside. I had a bearded dragon that fought with his own reflection at times because
                          the overhead lighting made for good images on the glass inside, and male beardies get really riled up when they think they see another male rival.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Striking!

                            I thought about the reflection myself, but if I'm not at computer, she is chillin in the pool or one of her hides.

                            I actually spent a few weeks observing this to see if that was the issue. However, She only comes out and starts hovering when I'm working at the computer. She only strikes when I get up and have to walk by the enclosure.

                            If I'm playing guitar or not down stairs at all and walk into the room she is chillin like a villain. Wen I sit down, she comes out and just stares and gets real close to the glass. She did this before with no tint, Which is why I put the tint on.


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                            Jason
                            0.1 Bolivian BCA-Granite
                            1.0 S. Brazilian BCA-Flare

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                            • #15
                              Re: Striking!

                              When you're at the computer is the monitor turned toward or away from her? If you are backlit and the door to her enclosure is closed, she just sees a big shadow move against the light, but her tongue isn't giving her any other input so she strikes thinking you're a predator. With the door open she can smell you, knows the movement is you, and you're not a threat.

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