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  • [Humidity] Snakes Hanging Out In Water Bowl?

    I know what you're thinking. It's not mites, lol. I swear ever since moving my cages into their own room I've had nothing but headaches with keeping the temp/humidity stable. During the winter it's always a challenge to keep the ambient temps up but getting a radiant heater solved that issue. Now that we're heading into summer I have the opposite problem of the room getting too warm. Usually with a fan in the window I can keep it in the low 80's which fine. Although if we have a super hot summer I may have to throw an AC into that room. But the last few months a few of my snakes have gotten into the habit of hanging out in their water bowls. They don't have mites and the humidity is good in all their cages. If anything I worry about the humidity getting too high because that room is all kinds of stuffy. I've noticed this behavior in three snakes, Jungle Carpet Python, Blood Python, and a BCI. They're in the same Pro-Line cage stack. Humidity in all their cages is around 65-70%. If they tip over their water bowl or get a bunch of water on the substrate it will easily jump up to 90% but this is more of an issue with the ones I keep in tubs.

    I'm not all that worried about it because they move out often enough that they're not getting scale rot or anything. They still shed and eat just find. I just find it odd. I i thought maybe they just liked the tight fit of the water bowl because some of them are in-between sizes for their hides. So I changed their hides around and put some smaller ones in their cages and they still just hang out in the water bowl. Although as I type this I wonder if it's something to do with that cage stack because it's only the ones in this cage stack that are doing this. But it doesn't make sense, usually snakes will do this if the humidity is too low and I tend to have the opposite problem of it being too high and they don't have mites. Maybe they're just doing this to mess with me. Anybody else have snakes that just like to hang out in water?
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    Re: Snakes Hanging Out In Water Bowl?

    You say the ambient in the room can reach the low 80's F. What's the ambient temperature in the enclosures in the stack? I found I had to dial back all of my RHP's a bit when the house warmed up this spring, as otherwise they took the ambient too high even though the reading at the t-stat probe, which is in the top rear corner of one of the enclosures, didn't change.

    Also I'm paranoid enough that I'd spray white paper towels with some Reptile Relief, and then I'd wipe down every snake in that stack and check the paper towels looking for mite larvae. But that's just me...

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    • #3
      Re: Snakes Hanging Out In Water Bowl?

      My thoughts are in line with bcr_229's post: that maybe the cages are too warm (ie. not offering a cool-enough cool side...)

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      • #4
        Re: Snakes Hanging Out In Water Bowl?

        That was one of my initial concerns too. Ground temps on the cool side are typically around 78-80 which if anything is a little bit low. And I should have clarified earlier, during the heat of summer that room will get into the low 80's. Currently it's in the mid 70's. I have a few gadgets to check the ambient temps and the humidity although I don't know how accurate the are; I purchased a bunch of them from Reptile Basics. According to those the ambient temps on the cool side are about the same as the room, 78-80. I'm curious what everyone else uses to check the ambient temps and humidity.



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        • #5
          Re: Snakes Hanging Out In Water Bowl?

          I will say that your low temps may still be a little too high, judging mostly from the BCI I kept for 12 years: she often preferred spending time at about 75*. (I've not kept a blood or jungle carpet-)

          Also, factor in that your temps as you're reading them may be off by a few degrees ("...don't know how accurate they are...") so when all three of these snakes are seeking relief in their water bowls, that
          suggests to me that they're too warm, you need to get accurate readings, and you probably need to "take their word for it". After all, they're stuck in these cages...

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          • #6
            Re: Snakes Hanging Out In Water Bowl?

            The only way I could get the cooler side cooler would be to put an air conditioner in the room. But then I have the problem of what do I do for the other 18 snakes who seem pretty content in their environments. Putting an air conditioner in the room will lower everyone's ambient temps.

            When this whole thing started a couple of months ago I got four different types of thermometers. Two were temp guns and two were digital ones with a probe. This is in addition to the thermostat probe. Every single one gave a different temperature, varied up to five degrees. I decided to trust my thermostat and the temp gun I got from Pro-Products since those gave almost the same reading.

            The other odd part about this is this stack of cages is 15" high and probably has the best airflow out of all my cages so these guys usually have the lowest ambient temperatures out of everyone but apparently they want it even lower, lol.




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            • #7
              Re: Snakes Hanging Out In Water Bowl?

              Originally posted by Zaphod42 View Post
              The only way I could get the cooler side cooler would be to put an air conditioner in the room.....
              That's not quite true...I can at least suggest a low-tech option: you could always use those re-freezable 'things' (made for ice chests) on a daily basis in each of those cages...they're cheap & only a minor hassle to use
              ...and even if they don't quite last ALL day, they at least give some relief. (they should, of course, be covered when in use) I might add that I have a pair of colubrid snakes that fit this profile...wanting it cooler.

              It doesn't really matter how many other snakes you have that want it warmer; truthfully, this is something we all have to research BEFORE we get pets & if we fail to do so, something we all have an obligation to make right,
              since the health of our snakes utterly depends upon their instinctive ability to thermoregulate and they're being artificially confined as pets by us.

              The other option is to re-home those snakes to someone who uses more A/C than you (or I) do.

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              • #8
                Re: Snakes Hanging Out In Water Bowl?

                Apparently this had nothing to do with temperature and everything to do with their choice of hides. I noticed someone post a picture of their boa and noticed they were using a hide for small animals. They had some on sale at Petco so I grabbed a few and put those in their cages. The Blood and BCI immediately moved into them. The JCP has been perching on top and going in. Apparently they just didn't like the hides I usually use which are rectangular and low so instead they jammed themselves into the deep circular bowls.




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                • #9
                  Re: Snakes Hanging Out In Water Bowl?

                  Glad you figured them out....yeah, snakes can be pretty opinionated about their furniture, LOL!

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