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  • [Respiratory] Sick Albino RTB

    Today, I acquired an amazing boa in the worst conditions. I'll spare you the details of the acquisition. To state the least of its problems, I have it quarantined in a sterilite tub with a heating pad and some moss. Its shed was so bad, that a thick callous was formed around its neck. Its scales are dark under its chin and certain areas of the body due to mites. And it keeps opening its mouth which I figured was maybe respiratory????

    [[I've already started treatment for the mites and awful shed.]]]

    I noted there was a creamy speckled mass inside its mouth. I pushed its mouth open, and I noticed there was, what I think, is mucus. I did however see that the speckles in the mouth were flecks of substrate from the old cage. So that makes me lean more towards mucus. [[I will try to get pictures]]

    There is nothing I can do right now. Everything is closed.

    I am not sure if mucus goes hand in hand with respiratory because none of my snakes have ever been sick like this and any rescue animals I've had never in such a bad condition.

    What I don't understand is the time it would take to prevent this is so minimal compared to the cost and time and it takes to fix it.

    Thanks for your help.

  • #2
    Re: Sick Albino RTB

    can you remove the mucus glob with a q-tip? opening the mouth usually indicates some form of respitatory issue whether its plugged/blocked nostrils or something in the mouth.

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    • #3
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      It closes its mouth every time I get it open. I suspect that it will come out. I'm just waiting for an extra set of hands.

      Aside from antibiotics, what is a good way to about handling the respiratory issue?

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      • #4
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        im not too experienced on RIs but a lot of people suggest to raise the temps 5 degrees or so and then keep the humidity a little higher than normal.

        this is only temporary until it can get to a vet because it's unlikely to go away on its own at the stage where mucus or bubbles form at the mouth.

        hopefully some others will chime in, but probably most won't be on till morning.

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        • #5
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          Raise the Heat & Humidity

          Heat raise up to about 88*-90* (cool side)

          Humidity should be above 70% I would say and 85% - 90% would probably be better

          This Boa will most definitely need a regimen of injectable antibiotics (several injections at home)

          You'll need to see an Exotics / Herp Vet , they specialize in Exotic animals and have
          specific knowledge about treating Reptiles that normal are clueless about

          I'm saying this because I don't want you to waste time or money going to a "Normal Vet"

          Some will not admit they have inadequate knowledge in this area
          it ends being unproductive & costly
          Last edited by Boa Amarali; 01-21-2010, 02:36 AM.

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          • #6
            Re: Sick Albino RTB

            Originally posted by Boa Amarali View Post
            Raise the Heat & Humidity

            Heat raise up to about 88*-90* (cool side)

            Humidity should be above 70% I would say and 85% - 90% would probably be better

            This Boa will most definitely need a regimen of injectable antibiotics (several injections at home)

            You'll need to see an Exotics / Herp Vet , they specialize in Exotic animals and have
            specific knowledge about treating Reptiles that normal are clueless about

            I'm saying this because I don't want you to waste time or money going to a "Normal Vet"

            Some will not admit they have inadequate knowledge in this area
            it ends being unproductive & costly

            Thank you, your post was very helpful.
            I'm going to look for a specialist in my area now.

            ~~~

            BTerrill, thank you. Yeah, it has bubbles AND mucus.
            Last edited by Boa Amarali; 01-21-2010, 02:35 AM.

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            • #7
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              Good luck on the rescue and please keep us posted on the progress.
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              • #8
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                Well I hope all goes well for you. Mites, if left untreated, can cause RI as well as poor husbandry. At least this little one is in good hands. Keep us updated.

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                • #9
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                  good luck, I hope she gets better. Im also dealing with a sick albino but she is slowly getting better.

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                  • #10
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                    Update!

                    So. I took the albino to the vet. I was really scared that it was going to be a $300 vet bill, but I was pleasantly surprised to find the checkup only cost $65. *whew* Anyway, I know you guys aren't too interested in that.

                    So, the vet examined her, and the news was a relief. So, he couldn't find any mites on her, though I'm positive I found at least one. But I had treated her for mites as soon as I got her home. [Hopefully that killed the last of them]

                    As for her RI, he informed me that it wasn't that bad and we caught it in time. So he recommended, high heat and humidity, And because I'm a girl I guess he thought he should tell me that I shouldn't use heat rocks and a whole list of husbandry 101 and reminisced about when he was in vet school, how girls weren't into reptiles. blah blah~

                    But mh. C: He gave me some Baytril for her. That aside she seems to be improving. Which is always good news.

                    Also, he mentioned that he wants to check her for Crypto, and that I should bring in a stool sample. Is this something I should even be concerned about? I mean if I thought something were wrong...other then the obvious. I feel like he's being a good business man, by recommending this. What do you guys think?

                    Ah, also, the pics are from her before her vet visit.
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                    • #11
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                      I am glad to hear you caught it in time and your snake will be back to good health shortly.

                      I don't know anything about Crypto or what it is so hopefully someone else can let you know. Hope she gets better soon that's a nice looking albino.

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                      • #12
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                        Hi. I am sorry to hear about that boa and commend you for what you are doing. It looks like the animal will be okay,though. The one thing I want to say is that when respiratory infections are involved they are right increase heat immediately. What I have read about them is that bacteria thrive on moisture so putting extra humidity in there may not be a good idea. Respiratory infections need to be dried out some. Now don't go getting your pet a dehumidifier or anything, just don't go trying to make too damp of an area for the bacteria in your boa to thrive in. If you doubt me you can do the research yourself and see what you come up with. Try the book "What's Wrong With My Snake?" It's very informative. It's basically a medical book on snakes that several good doctors put together. Hope this helps some.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by TLBOA View Post
                          Hi. I am sorry to hear about that boa and commend you for what you are doing. It looks like the animal will be okay,though. The one thing I want to say is that when respiratory infections are involved they are right increase heat immediately. What I have read about them is that bacteria thrive on moisture so putting extra humidity in there may not be a good idea. Respiratory infections need to be dried out some. Now don't go getting your pet a dehumidifier or anything, just don't go trying to make too damp of an area for the bacteria in your boa to thrive in. If you doubt me you can do the research yourself and see what you come up with. Try the book "What's Wrong With My Snake?" It's very informative. It's basically a medical book on snakes that several good doctors put together. Hope this helps some.

                          No the proper course is to increase heat and humidity. Snakes can't cough up
                          that goop they need the increase humidity to allow the mucous break up
                          and release. Its actually very similar to human treatment. When you
                          have a respiratory problem the Dr.wants us to use a Humidifier in the
                          room . This is very common human babies and respiratory problems

                          So absolutely increase the humidity,and the heat.
                          The Antibiotics are going kill the bad bacteria
                          that's what the Antibiotics are for
                          killing bacteria.

                          On the crypto I'm still slightly in the dark on this problem. Joley has the low
                          down on this but I believe she left on vacation today.

                          I believe there are specific symptoms for crypto , I'm not certain if your
                          Boa fits that criteria. Plus I believe there is only one good test for it and
                          that is very expensive but once again I'm very uncertain here.

                          Best bet is do a Forum search and read up in threads that crypto is mentioned
                          You are bound to come across Joley's great advice on crypto.

                          Lar M
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                          • #14
                            Re: Sick Albino RTB

                            There is someone on the forum i use in the uk that has developed a none anti biotic treatment for R.I. I will post the link if im allowed ( if not mods please delete where needed). However I will state that a vets consultation is always needed to determine how bad things are. He also states this in his text so please consult a vet.

                            Alternative R.I. treatment - Reptile Forums UK


                            EDIT: sorry you have already been to the vets. My apologies as Im still getting used to the way this forum works and didnt notice there were more responses when I replied

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                            • #15
                              Re: Sick Albino RTB

                              Here you go

                              Cryptosporidium serpentis - Click Here

                              Edit : By the way Joley is jhsulliv

                              Lar M
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