[Health-General] Motley life spans?

[acephantom903]

I am pretty sure I'm posting this in the wrong place but I'm not sure where to post it.

I'm now at the point where I'm looking for breeders in my local area which may have litters soon or recently and I was looking more at Motley boas.
I saw that super motley boas only live a few years because of complications. Do non-super motleys have any issues? Do they still have the same 20-30 year life range as most other BCIs?

[tsblair]

Re: Motley life spans?

The Super Mots do have a fatal gene, the het Motleys (or normal Motleys) have normal life spans as far as we can tell so far.

[acephantom903]

Re: Motley life spans?

Thank you.

[paulh]

Re: Motley life spans?

From what I have found (MOTLEY BOA), the original motley was imported in 1994. It would be 21 if still alive, and its offspring would be less than 20. But I have no information on whether any of those snakes are still alive. IMO, motley owners need to pool information on life spans.

By the way, it is the presence of TWO motley genes in the gene pair that is fatal. There is no separate fatal gene associated with the motley gene. Having a motley gene paired with a normal gene may reduce average life span a little or slightly reduce embryo viability or have some other effect. But I have seen no data about that. IMO, any effects are probably quite minor and not worth worrying about.

[acephantom903]

Re: Motley life spans?

I'm honestly surprised we have so much information on our boas as we do. How did people communicate ideas on husbandry before the internet? From what I've seen the reptile community is pretty quiet and hard to find unless you know where to look.

[Noelle7206]

Re: Motley life spans?

I'm honestly surprised we have so much information on our boas as we do. How did people communicate ideas on husbandry before the internet? From what I've seen the reptile community is pretty quiet and hard to find unless you know where to look.

Back in the old days, we used smoke signals...ha ha ha! (yes, the 'net really does help us share so much information!) Some of us used telephones & went to herp club meetings, & all the
networking we could manage.

[Mrs.smith]

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I haven't heard anything about motleys living any shorter of a lifespan. I also just had a litter of motleys and hypo motleys lol

[Pandorasdad]

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How did people communicate ideas on husbandry before the internet?

We used to have these amazing devices called books. They were like your tablet or phone, only made from a substance known as paper. And the best ones were covered in genuine leather and smelled amazing.

Seriously, though, that was it. 3 guys wrote books about boa keeping. You read these "boa constrictor bibles" and did what they said to do. People with snakes were still considered weird and so you didn't really tell other people about your snakes. The social aspect of forums like this is really what I like the best. Connecting with other people who share my obsession. I do miss books though. (I'll be over in the corner smelling the leather bound books if you need me.)

[acephantom903]

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3 guys wrote books about boa keeping

How did you know how to find them? I couldn't imagine going up to a sweet little librarian and asking if there were any books about boa constrictor husbandry out there. lol

[bebowebb]

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How did you know how to find them? I couldn't imagine going up to a sweet little librarian and asking if there were any books about boa constrictor husbandry out there. lol

That has always been the great thing about libraries... the fact that they have always seemed to have a little bit of everything on their shelves and you would rarely find yourself having to ask for a special order book.

[Pandorasdad]

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Amazon. It's where I pretty much buy everything these days. Including real books. No freaking out librarians necessary.

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[Kung Fu Joe]

Re: Motley life spans?

I'm honestly surprised we have so much information on our boas as we do. How did people communicate ideas on husbandry before the internet? From what I've seen the reptile community is pretty quiet and hard to find unless you know where to look.

It really was difficult. I knew one guy that worked at my local pet store who had a basic knowledge of constrictors. I used to go o him for advice. There were a few books that you could buy in the pet stores, and for me that was it. I learned most of our "common knowledge" through experience.

I still do not have any friends that keep snakes... and I still keep quiet about my hobby to everyone except my close friends. Sad, but shamefully true.