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  • You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

    I just got done making MY calls. One of the ladies I spoke with said they've had a whopping 6 calls in 5 hours!!!

    are you serious?!?! 6 measely calls in almost as many hours? Thanks to the other 5 who have done your part, but the rest of you are pathetic.

    Don't be the cause of us all losing our hobby!

    CALL NOW!

    It only takes 20 minutes to make it through the list. You can't convince me you've got somethin more important to do than this.

    ALERT: Congressional Call In- Stop HR2811 Python Ban!
    Please join the Reptile Nation in a Congressional Call In Opposing HR2811 aka The Python Ban November 2, 3 & 4. If you value your Boas & Pythons you will participate and encourage your entire sphere of influence to do the same. There is a Hearing in front of the House Judiciary Committee, Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism & Homeland Security scheduled for November 5th. Please call in and OPPOSE HR2811.

    As originally written HR2811 would add the entire genus python to the Injurious Wildlife List of the Lacey Act. This would effectively end the Import, Export and Interstate Transport of any animals listed. In July USARK was successful in narrowing the scope of the bill by removing most pythons with an amendment offered by Congressman Tom Rooney. The amendment would limit the bill to the Burmese Python and the African Python. In addition committee staff agreed in principle to further amend the bill to allow the captive bred trade in these two snakes to continue. To date this promise has not been kept and the HR2811 has not been amended to allow for captive bred trade.

    Meanwhile the USGS Risk Assessment of 9 Large Constricting Snakes has been released. The Humane Society of the United States is lobbying hard to have HR2811 amended to include the entire genus python, as well as the four species of anaconda, and Boa Constrictor referred to in the USGS report. Do not assume that HSUS will not be successful in getting HR2811 amended to reflect these changes. Only USARK and the Reptile Nation stand between HSUS and the destruction of our community.

    Our science experts have done a cursory analysis of the USGS report and characterize it as “…loose with numerous mistakes and inaccuracies. It is an oversimplification of a very complicated topic.” The bottom line is it is not the solid piece of science HSUS wanted to use as a tool to break the back of our community. However that has not stopped them from mischaracterizing it as just that.

    What can I do?

    ***November 2,3 & 4 Call In and Fax the Subcommittee and voice your opposition to HR2811. Be polite & professional!

    Script:
    My name is____. I oppose HR2811. It is overly simplistic and politically driven. It is poorly thought out and sacrifices good science for political expediency. The negative economic impact for my family and business would be significant. Please oppose HR2811. Thank you for your consideration.

    Call List:
    Sponsor:

    Congressman Kendrick Meek (D-FL), Sponsor
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-4506; fax 202-226-0777
    Miami: phone 305-690-5905; fax 305-690-5951

    Cosponsors:

    Congressman Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-1313; fax 202-225-8398
    Ft. Lauderdale: phone 954-733-2800

    Congressman John Lewis (D-GA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-3801; fax 202-225-0351
    Atlanta: phone 404-659-0116

    Congressman Robert Wexler (D-FL)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-3001; fax 202-225-5974
    Boca Raton: phone 561-988-6302; fax 561-988-6423

    Congresswoman Mazie Hirono (HI-2)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-4906; fax 202-225-4987
    Honolulu: phone 808-541-1986

    Congressman Tom Rooney (R-FL)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-5792; fax 202-225-3132
    Punta Gorda: phone 941-575-9101; fax 941-575-9103

    Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism & Homeland Security:

    Congressman Bobby Scott (D-VA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-8351; fax 202-225-8354
    Richmond: phone 804-644-4845

    Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren (D-CA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-3072; fax 202-225-3336
    San Jose: phone 408-271-8700

    Congresswoman Shelia Jackson Lee (D-TX)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-3816; fax 202-225-3317
    Houston: phone 713-691-4882

    Congresswoman Maxine Waters (D-CA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-2201; fax 202-225-7854
    Los Angeles: phone 323-757-8900

    Congressman Steve Cohen (D-TN)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-3265; fax 202-225-5663
    Memphis: phone 901-544-4131

    Congressman Pedro Pierluisi (D-PR)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-2615; fax 202-225-2154
    San Juan: phone 787-723-6333

    Congressman Bob Goodlatte (R-VA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-5431; fax 202-225-9681
    Roanoke: phone 540-857-2672

    Congressman Dan Lungren (R-CA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-5716; fax 202-226-1298
    Gold River: phone 916-859-9906

    Congressman Louie Gohmert (R-TX)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-3035; fax 202-226-1230
    Tyler: phone 903-561-6349

    Congressman Ted Poe (R-TX)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-6565; fax 202-225-5547
    Beaumont: phone 409-212-1997

    Congressman Randy Forbes (R-VA)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-6365; fax 202-226-1170
    Chesapeake: 757-382-0080; fax 757-382-0780

    Congressman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-5635
    New York: phone 212-367-7350

    Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-7931; fax 202-226-2052
    Pembroke Pines: phone 954-437-3936; fax 954-437-4776

    Congressman Anthony Weiner (D-NY)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-6616
    Brooklyn: phone 718-743-0441

    Congressman Mike Quigley (D-IL)
    Washington DC: phone 202-225-4061; fax 202-225-5603
    Chicago: phone 773-267-5926; fax 773-267-6583

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    Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

    bump

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    • #3
      Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

      This doesn't sound good.


      Prehaps there's more people that are just faxing and emailing. I'd like to think that "everyone" on this forum is doing their part.

      If we don't "ALL" fight for our hobby, they'll take it away from us. If anyone didn't get a chance to call, email and fax today, I hope they do it tomorrow.

      WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!!!!

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      • #4
        Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

        What specific snakes are being banned? All pythons? Does this include canada?

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        • #5
          Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

          P.s.. THAT IS RIDICULOUS

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          • #6
            Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

            Originally posted by shogun678 View Post
            Does this include canada?
            No, we have our own government. It does however affect Canada (on many levels) so you should make sure you get any American friends you may have to voice their opinion on it.

            [Edit] P.S. Why does it say "Premium Sponsor" under my name? As much as I would like to I haven't gotten around to making a donation or getting a paid membership so I don't think that should be there.
            Last edited by Hunglikeafruitbat; 11-02-2009, 07:05 PM. Reason: paranoia

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            • #7
              Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

              Originally posted by Hunglikeafruitbat View Post

              [Edit] P.S. Why does it say "Premium Sponsor" under my name? As much as I would like to I haven't gotten around to making a donation or getting a paid membership so I don't think that should be there.

              Read this. Sponsorship pay it forward.

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              • #8
                Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

                Originally posted by dangles View Post
                I just got done making MY calls. One of the ladies I spoke with said they've had a whopping 6 calls in 5 hours!!!

                are you serious?!?! 6 measely calls in almost as many hours? Thanks to the other 5 who have done your part, but the rest of you are pathetic.


                ...Wow! I wonder how many people called over the weekend and left messages other than myself? I'll be calling again!

                And keep putting your bid in on free boas! Because God knows that at this rate by the time the Free Thanksgiving Boa offer is up we will no longer have a hobby.

                As far as I'm concerned when something like this comes up and the community needs to rally behind it the free boa contests should be closed. These matters outweigh any contest. Stand up for your rights and privileges or loose them forever! This is where your votes really count.



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                • #9
                  Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

                  Originally posted by MLynch View Post


                  ...Wow! I wonder how many people called over the weekend and left messages other than myself? I'll be calling again!

                  And keep putting your bid in on free boas! Because God knows that at this rate by the time the Free Thanksgiving Boa offer is up we will no longer have a hobby.

                  As far as I'm concerned when something like this comes up and the community needs to rally behind it the free boa contests should be closed. These matters outweigh any contest. Stand up for your rights and privileges or loose them forever! This is where your votes really count.



                  I'm not active in the contests and probably won't be but I agree with and support this idea. can't understand why people are so quick to allow their rights to be taken away these days.

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                  • #10
                    Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

                    this thread has had 99 views. i'm not sure if they are distinct views, but i think they are (?). in any case, only 8 have replied that they have done something.

                    ***?

                    maybe i'm starting to sound like a broken record, but i don't care. what i care more about is MY BOAS.

                    do you care about yours?

                    and for those who have voted so many times in the free boa giveaways and haven't yet (or don't plan to) take 20 minutes out of your day to make a few phone calls: you apparently care more about mooching a free boa from clay than ensuring he still has a job in a few weeks. that's disgusting, and you are a parasite.

                    the sad thing is, most members here will never see this thread.

                    *falls on deaf ears*

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                    • #11
                      Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

                      My wife just got done sending her emails out... and she's not even a member of the forum.

                      I've got a stack of new faxes to send out in the morning, and I'll be making my calls over lunch.

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                      • #12
                        Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

                        Originally posted by shogun678 View Post
                        What specific snakes are being banned? All pythons? Does this include canada?
                        if HSUS has their way, boa constrictors, burmese pythons, african rock pythons, reticulated pythons, amethystine pythons, and anything else remotely "big" will be history.

                        canada is not included, but people like jeff (the boaphile) and clay - as well as numerous others - would no longer be allowed to breed or sell their boas to ANYONE.

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                        • #13
                          Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

                          i called and emailed today left msgs and spoke to several people and not many people had called that the secretaries were aware of so........ like Chris said please call fax or even just email pls every vote counts

                          Thanks

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                          • #14
                            Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

                            Well I got a completely different response today.
                            I started calling at 9 am EST and started with the Sponsors of the bill.
                            First call was to Meek's office where I was greeted by a gentlemen whom sounded iritated to be there, I went into my reasons for why and was returned with a rude sigh and then "well I guess like the others you are against 2811" and I replied yes he then said "I will let my boss know"
                            I continued down the list of sponsors, it took me a lot longer due to the fact I did not use the script provided I use my own. A few secritaries were polite but others sounded bothered by the calls.
                            At around noon I took a break and ran to Staples and spent $48.76(a small price to pay to help the hobby) sending faxes to all the numbers on the list some came back not in service but the rest got my fax.
                            Once I got home I started on the west coast numbers. I went down the whole list and will do so again tomorrow.

                            I am sorry I did not post on this thread sooner but I have it posted on my own forum and I thought it more important to keep the calls going and stay away from the forums( I tend to get sucked in by the pictures)

                            Anyway as stated this is a big deal folks lets get the calls going again tomorrow and try to beat this one like we did S373 and the Florida Python Ban.

                            I do not believe they have much of a leg to stand on since it got shot down in Florida where the people that started this crap are.(Nelson, Meeks and Rooney) But that does not mean keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best lets make them know we care about our hobby.
                            And if you live in a state that one of them is from, let them know it is an election year for them. They want to fight dirty we can to. Be polite but firm.

                            On a side note as of right now there is no amendment in the bill it plainly states:
                            111th CONGRESS
                            1st Session
                            H. R. 2811
                            To amend title 18, United States Code, to include constrictor snakes of the species Python genera as an injurious animal.
                            IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
                            Mr. MEEK of Florida introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
                            A BILL
                            To amend title 18, United States Code, to include constrictor snakes of the species Python genera as an injurious animal.
                            Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. IMPORTATION OR SHIPMENT OF INJURIOUS SPECIES. Section 42(a)(1) of title 18, United States Code, is amended in the first sentence by inserting `; of the constrictor snake of the species Python genera' after `polymorpha'.
                            That means all pythons are still on this bill not just the big 5 or 9 or whatever it is now.

                            So this bill could end a lot of people's livelyhoods. I may breed but I have a job and my wife works to but there are people out there that depend on pythons to feed their families so this would hit them very hard.

                            Keep it up guys we need it.

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                            • #15
                              Re: You've got to be FREAKING kidding me!!!

                              Bump

                              Come on folks get off your keesters and make some calls.

                              Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeas e.

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