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    Hey all,

    You may get a kick out of this. Most know I do reptile rescue when I can help.. Anyway.. I took this boa in. He was not being cared for. This girl was underweight, had a burn under his whole head and the tip of her tail, and had a bad case of mouthrot. Anyway the owner took this girl into the petshop asking them to take it because he couldn't afford to care for it. This thing was on its last leg (so to speak). The petshop didn't want it, but took it and called me. I went down to pick her up and to tell the truth I didn't think it would make it through the weekend. But after 2 months of meds, heat, and food, the snake proved to have a fight in her and wasn't gonna check out on me. I kept this girl for 4 months, everything cleared up except the scars under the face and on the tail. She was eating like a pig and getting real fat thanks to a few guinea pigs and several rats. The orgigional owner stopped into the petshop and was wondering how she was doing, so the idiot at the counter gave this guy my phone number. He called, I gave him an update and he asked if he could please just see her. So I figured no harm. He came over and checked her out and seemed real happy she was doing better. He left. Two days later I get a call from the petshop and they are telling me he was in their spouting off that he wants his snake back and they had no right getting rid of it. Then the next day he calls me and starts telling me the snake still belongs to him and he wants it back. I told him there were over 400 dollars of services done to get her well, and he said he would even pay me back. I told him I didn't think he should have this girl back, because in his care it almost died. He started spouting he would get a lawyer, etc.. I told him to $$%# off and hung up on him.. This was a few days ago. Since I spoke to him I relocated this snake to a very kind home where I know she will get spoiled and get any care she needs. I spoke to a lawyer that said unless a animal reliquish form was done he can try to take me to court. My main defense in that the snake came from the pet shop and not him directly, and that I can prove this snake was being neglected. Ya try to do the nice thing, and it comes back on you. Like I said to him, I refuse to give this snake back to suffer again. Should be interesting to see what happens.. I haven't heard anything the last few days. Guess time will tell.. what an ***.. So for anyone who takes in rescues, you may want to just write a note and have the owner sign it to cover your butt..

    Steve Clark

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    Some people are total morons. I would write up my own animal release form and give it to the pet store to insure they have people sign it when turning over their animals just to cover both you and the pet stores ***.

    Keep up the good work Steve.

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      As long as you have ANY receipts from a vet, or papers that describe the damages on the animal, such as a medical diagnosis, with details that cannot be disputed then it is basically legally YOUR animal.

      I would even go so far as to get a written statement from the pet store employees to the effect that this person willingly gave the animal up to their posession as they couild no longer care for it.

      As far as the law is concerned, they gave up all rights at that moment. Also, with the animals damage and neglect, you could very well have them charged with neglect and cruelty just on the vets statement.

      Im other words, tell the person to get lost or you will have charges of neglect, cruelty AND harrasment brought up on them.
      Besides, common sense will tell ya, if they couldnt afford it two months ago, they can't afford it now.
      If they can afford it now, then it is deffinately a case of neglect as they did NOT want to shell out the $$ to rectify its' condition and merely pawned it off on someone so they would not have to deal with the damage they did.

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        Yeah Bill. I agree, and great idea about giving copies to the pet shop.. Very good idea..
        Thanks
        Steve

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          I agree ReticEd,

          Only problem, atleast in NY is there is a statue of limitation on neglect chages with animals. Not sure what it is yet. I do agree with everything you said, but remember atleast in New York state, if you find a dog, have it for years, spend a ton of money on vet bills, the old owner could come up and claim it anytime. The way around this is the dog would have to spend 30 days in an animal shelter and if not claimed, then you can become the owner of the dog, cats here are different. if you feed a stray once, you own it and are responcible for it.. Stupid laws in my opinion. The lawyer I spoke to has no clue where a snake would fit in to the above laws. The lawyer basically said that he did give up rights to the animal when he dropped it off, only snag could be if he claims he wanted the pet shop to help the animal but wanted it back. The girl who took it in and called me, no longer works there, trying to get ahold of her for a statement..
          I am sure things will work out, just frustrating..
          Steve

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            I'm willing to bet that the laws there pertain to livestock such as domesticated dogs, cats horses and other standard farm animals and pets and have no bearing on reptiles at all as in most states as for the ability to reclaim it.

            I could be wrong, but am willing to bet on it.

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              From what I can gather exotics are not even mentioned in any laws pertaining to rightful owner. This means that it would fall under property which could even go by the federally placed law that unclaimed property after 30 days can be given to the finder in this case the pet store because that is where the snake was dropped off. The pet store did not want the snake and gave it to you. That would make you the lawful owner of said property! You won't even have to go to court for that because I don't think any normal attorney will take his case because he has a loser no matter what. And not so normal attorneys are easy to beat even without your own attorney.

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                Everyone that has replied to this topic is completely correct. I work at a petstore and we take in quite a few animals that people either neglect, don't want or can't handle. The very first thing I do is get as much information from the owner as I can before they turn the animal over to my care. Next, I make them sign a waiver stating that they no longer have any right to the animal and they are turning over owener-ship to the petstore to assume all care and responsibility. Once all that is done, I either begin to rehabilitate the animal if it is within our means. If the condition is too serious it goes to the vet immediately!!! If the animal is too large for our store, I have a list of people that volunteer their personal time to rescue animals and then adopt them out through an extensive interview process.
                I've noticed that most people throughout this forum have had very little luck, if not just plain bad luck, with either petstores or the uneducated souls that just occupy a "sales associate" position at the petstore. I will be the first one to step up and say that I do the very best I possibly can to learn as much as possible about the animals in my store. I only work there part time (evenings) and when I am at work at my full-time job I am fortunate enough to be able to spend time on the internet to talk with folks such as yourself in order to stay informed on the latest care tips, health issues, etc. I take animal care extremely serious which is why I decided to work at a pet store, not to mention that I have a small "zoo" of my own at my home! I go WAY beyond the norm to educate people on whatever pet they are interested in. I have gone so far as to refuse the sale on some animals because I felt that the people weren't qualified to care for the pet. Along those lines, I have even had people change their mind after learning about what is involved with the care of the pet they were intersted in.
                O.K., I've gone on long enough. Basically my point is there are stupid people out there like Steve encountered. Also, I would like to say that there are a few "diamond in the rough" people that work in pet stores that do a very good job, I just don't want to see "pet stores" be stereotyped as a business that is only in it for the money. Sorry everyone, I didn't mean to rant and rave, just had to get that off my chest!

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