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    Please,

    This is originally posted by Jason Sweigart. Everybody, send an email or letter to the following adresses. This is very serious and it affects all of us one way or another. Let's stop in NOW! I posted my response also. if you would like to use it and change your name that's cool, but please help protect my passion in life!

    _Nate Oswald
    Chicago, IL

    Dear Mr. Burke,

    I am sending this email in order to encourage you to vote
    "no" on the pending ordinance concerning the ownership and propagation of certain reptiles. I think this law
    is unnecessary and intrusive upon our rights to freedom and privacy. It would
    seem there would a greater need for legislation restricting the ownership of
    cats and dogs. The frequency of dangerous situations are exhibited many times
    by the former pets. I don't wish my rights as a reptile enthusiast to be
    restricted due to a few sensationalized events concerning exotics. I appreciate
    your time and concern.

    Sincerely,



    Posted by: dumerils.com at Mon Jul 21 23:59:47 2003 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ]

    Chicago is currently pushing a city wide ordinance to ban reptiles, birds, bats certain cats, wolves, hybrids and the list goes on. But don’t stop reading now because you think this doesn’t affect you because you don’t live in Chicago. What they are pushing is the exact same ordinance passed a while back in NYC verbatim. They only thing they have changed is the references made to NYC, they simply cut out NYC and added Chicago. I spoke to the women today who rewrote the ordinance and asked her why they were pushing this. Now this lady is a lawyer supposedly educated, her response to me was “because my boss thinks it’s a good idea”. From there I asked her why it’s a good idea “well for one I think reptiles can make people sick……..oh and they can be dangerous as well”. I asked her what reptiles can make people sick with? “I don’t know people get sick from handling them” Those were her responses verbatim, she “thinks” reptiles can make people sick? Come on these people don’t have a clue! WE HAVE TO STOP THIS NOW!!!!!! We all cant allow this to go on any further. I don’t care if you own one or 1000 reptiles it will effect you. This is the PERFECT example of how laws get passed in one place plagiarized and passed in another. Anyone who breeds reptiles, sells supplies, feeders anything at all reptile related this will affect you. Chicago is a giant market, between the city and the suburbs that this is sure to spill over into theres 7-11million people that can and will be affected locally every single person who ships reptile/critters or supplies into the area that will lose that market. Chicago is simply one of the largest cities in the US and if they can push this there its going to be a breeze anywhere else. I know someone is going to come along and say something about how they passed it in NYC but its unenforceable because the way it was written. Well I tell you this the hard part is getting it passed from there revising it and making it enforceable isnt that difficult. Its easier to stop it now then it is to get something reasonable added once its passed. I have someone tonight who is scanning the ordinance for me and tomorrow I will post the whole thing as it stands once I find a place to put it. How ever for tonight I will type the section concerning reptiles word for word and also post the contact info for the lady who written it and the Alderman sponsoring it. So please contact these people and tell them this ordinance nots!!!! Call and write them letters, they will put more priority on then emails but I will post them to. At the very least if you live in Deerfield PA or some other place, please email them and let them know this isn’t right. If ya can call and write them letters and get everyone you can to as well. reptiles as they stand. PLEASE DO SOMETHING!!!!!

    Contact
    This Ordinance is being sponsored by
    Alderman Edward Burke
    2650 W 51st st
    Chicago Il 60632
    773-471-1414
    312-744-3380
    [email protected]

    Co-Sponsor
    Shirley Coleman
    1249 W. 63rd st
    Chicago Il, 60636
    773-918-1670
    [email protected]





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    Re:Help In Chicago !!!

    well you have to get people in your area on the band wagon and start a protest in front of city hall..w/ out people knowing what your doing.wouldnt get attaion to the matter and might start a door to door petion on stoping this law in your city...

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    • #3
      Re:Help In Chicago !!!

      Hello Nate,

      Not sure how much it will help, but I did write the people on that list. Since I live in NY, I am aware of the in's and out's of this ordinance. It doesn't effect me directly because I am located 2 hours from NYC, but I agree we need to get some control in this issue before reptiles get banned all over..

      Steve

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      • #4
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        [quote author=Gun Lover link=board=1;threadid=2813;start=msg19208#msg19208 date=1058869858]
        well you have to get people in your area on the band wagon and start a protest in front of city hall..w/ out people knowing what your doing.wouldnt get attaion to the matter and might start a door to door petion on stoping this law in your city...
        [/quote]

        Hey Nate,

        I agree with Gun Lover,

        Good luck Nate

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        • #5
          Re:Help In Chicago !!!

          A few of the laws as tried to pass overtime. The best and most civil way to handle such a situation is to get as many people as you can to email the senators and other members of legislation. This will encourage them to take the time to think and understand it. I encourage everyone here to send a email to them. Keep in mind, please keep it civil, being immature or harsh will only make matters worse.

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          • #6
            Re:Help In Chicago !!!

            thats the only way i that will stop this bill...only if a few email this guy..i dont think it will help...now get 10,000 people show up on the city hall front dooor step..well they would maybe wise up...

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            • #7
              Re:Help In Chicago !!!

              Thanx for the concern and advice. I will be doing everything I can. Please, spread the word!

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              • #8
                Re:Help In Chicago !!!

                I tried emailing the first addy, it came back.. i tried..

                Steve

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                • #9
                  Re:Help In Chicago !!!


                  Here are the rest. Please, give it another shot! I've emailed every single one and I encourage everybody else to so!




                  These are the people on the committee who will be hearing the ordinance
                  President
                  Alderman: Isaac Carothers Ward Office: 5937 West Madison Avenue
                  Chicago, Il 60644 Ward Phone: 773-261-4646 E-Mail: [email protected] City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
                  Room 203
                  Chicago, IL 60602 City Hall Phone: 312-744-3070

                  Vice Chairman
                  Alderman: Virginia A. Rugai Ward Office: 10444 S. Western Ave.
                  Chicago, IL 60643 Ward Phone: 773-238-8766 Fax: 773-238-9049 E-Mail: [email protected] City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
                  Room 300
                  Chicago, IL 60602 City Hall Phone: 312-744-3072

                  The rest are all members.
                  Alderman: Madeline L. Haithcock Ward Office: 449 E. 35th Street
                  Chicago, IL 60616 Ward Phone: 773-924-0014 E-Mail: [email protected] City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
                  Room 300
                  Chicago, IL 60602 City Hall Phone: 312-744-6836

                  Alderman: John A. Pope
                  Ward Office: 3522 E. 106th Street
                  Chicago, IL 60617
                  Ward Phone: 773-721-1999
                  E-Mail: [email protected]
                  City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
                  Room 300
                  Chicago, IL 60602
                  City Hall Phone: 312-744-3078

                  Alderman: James A. Balcer Ward Office: 3659 S. Halsted St.
                  Chicago, IL 60609 Ward Phone: 773-254-6677 E-Mail: [email protected] City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
                  Room 203
                  Chicago, IL 60602 City Hall Phone: 312-744-6663

                  Alderman: George A. Cardenas Ward Office: 2829 W. Cermak Rd.
                  Chicago, IL 60623
                  Temporary Location Ward Phone: 773/843-9955 E-Mail: T.B.A. City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
                  Room 203
                  Chicago, IL 60602 City Hall Phone: 312-744-3040

                  Alderman: Edward M. Burke Ward Office: 2650 W. 51st Street
                  Chicago, IL 60632 Ward Phone: 773-471-1414 E-Mail: [email protected] City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
                  Room 302
                  Chicago, IL 60602 City Hall Phone: 312-744-3380

                  Alderman: Thomas W. Murphy Ward Office: 8146 S. Kedzie Ave.
                  Chicago, IL 60652 Ward Phone: 773-471-1991 E-Mail: [email protected] City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
                  Room 300
                  Chicago, IL 60602 City Hall Phone: 312-744-6856

                  Alderman: Arenda Troutman Ward Office: 5859 S. State St.
                  Chicago, IL 60621 Ward Phone: 773-324-5224 E-Mail: [email protected] City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
                  Room 300
                  Chicago, IL 60602 City Hall Phone: 312-744-6840

                  Alderman: Daniel S. Solis Ward Office: 2439 S. Oakley
                  Chicago, IL 60608 Ward Phone: 312-843-1200 E-Mail: [email protected] City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
                  Room 203
                  Chicago, IL 60602 City Hall Phone: 312-744-6845

                  Alderman: Margaret Laurino Ward Office: 4404 W. Lawrence Ave.
                  Chicago, IL 60630 Ward Phone: 773-736-5594 E-Mail: [email protected] City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
                  Room 203
                  Chicago, IL 60602 City Hall Phone: 312-744-7242

                  Alderman: Patrick J. O'Connor
                  Ward Office: 5850 N. Lincoln Ave.
                  Chicago, IL 60659
                  Ward Phone: 773-769-1140
                  E-Mail: [email protected]
                  City Hall Office: 121 N. Lasalle St.
                  Room 305
                  Chicago, IL 60602
                  City Hall Phone: 312-744-6858

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                  • #10
                    Re:Help In Chicago !!!

                    Hey Nate,

                    I will give it a try, I am sure others will as well... Keep us posted on things

                    Steve

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                    • #11
                      Re:Help In Chicago !!!

                      thats the only way i that will stop this bill...only if a few email this guy..i dont think it will help...now get 10,000 people show up on the city hall front dooor step..well they would maybe wise up...
                      Emailing and being civil with an well said email does help a lot. This method has proved to help many times in the past.

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                      • #12
                        Re:Help In Chicago !!!

                        :I agree with Xzylum on this, its just the fact that alot of this is all commin from bad dealers/ sellers/ breeders that knowingly sell sick animals that make this whole world go into a panic and the media makes things so bad that everyone is trying to ban exotics because of it.. thinking oh geez that will help the prob..Well it dont... educate educate educate all those that needs to really know whats going on, in your emails please try to inform them as well that its not the animals at fault for things its the responsable dealer, seller or breeder thats not doing there job correctly... Sickness can only be spred by one means NEGLAGENCE!!! Plus all care givers/ owners of exotics need to be resposable as well for there animals... Thats all i got to say on that sub... My 2 cents worth...

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                        • #13
                          Re:Help In Chicago !!!

                          yea i know what ya saying Xz..but iam not syaing go down there w/ guns blazzing...ment if you want attaion to this matter you have to get a larage group of people ( snake,lizz,etc..) to show up and let them know theyt are regst voters and let them know that if they proceced w/ this b.s. they have the right to not vote for them..but just having 10 people email some 1 and saying please stop this does some good..but have 10,000 people show up and say hey this isnt right..would draw the news into it and let other herpers know whats going on..

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                          • #14
                            Re:Help In Chicago !!!

                            It would be very rare to get such a large group of hobbyists together in one state. The thing about emailing is that there is a whole hobbyist community available. Word about such things as this spread relatively fast and one would be quite suprised at how many people email senators and other members.

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                            • #15
                              Re:Help In Chicago !!!

                              Yeah Xzylum is right on how this should be handled.

                              Good luck Nate.

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