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  • Nile Monitor Lizards in Fla.

    any 1 here from Fla see these or heard this story ? i just came across it...


    CAPE CORAL, Fla. - Biologists in southwest Florida have set out to trap a species of giant, carnivorous lizards normally native to Africa that appear to be spreading through the region.

    Cape Coral has become a haven for Nile monitor lizards, and their population in the Gulf Coast city has possibly reached the thousands, said Todd Campbell, a University of Tampa assistant professor of biology who has started a project to monitor the monitors. Options being studied include relocating or killing the animals.

    The first official report of a monitor lizard in Cape Coral was in 1990. Since then, Cape Coral has received 145 reports.

    Nile monitor lizards, which can easily grow to 5 feet, might have become established in Cape Coral in one of two ways, Campbell said. Some may have been released into the wild after being kept as pets, or the roaming lizards might all be descendants of a single pregnant female who was released.

    Campbell and his assistants, working with state and federal grants, are trying to learn whether monitor lizards have become a threat to native species. The animals can hunt prey in the water, in trees and even underground.

    ``They likely eat anything they can fit in their mouths,'' said Gregg Klowden, a University of Florida biologist working on the project. ``In my opinion, burrowing owls are like popcorn snacks for them.''

    In Africa, the lizards eat crocodile eggs, fish, mussels and snails.

    ``They certainly wouldn't have any problem with baby alligators,'' Campbell said, adding: ``These things eat oysters, so to crunch a gopher tortoise shell would be nothing. They probably eat armadillos, foxes, ground doves, reptiles, amphibians. There's one story of a lady finding a hatchling monitor eating goldfish out of her pond.''

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    Hey GL,

    Haven't heard that before.. That could be another bad hit the reptile community.. some idiots relase there pets and now the state will have a problem.. This is one reason i can see states starting to micro-chip all animals. this way if one gets released without reporting it, it can be tracked back to the person who released it..

    Steve

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    • #3
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      I say let the monitors be, they really cant do anything now if there are thousands of them like they said there are. But that is kinda funny cause I dont think a nile monitor could eat a fox, actually I know they can't. But good post anyway.

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      • #4
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        yea i thought it was odd that they said it could eat foxes...but they reach 5 feet.....yea it does give us bad names for a few idots that release there pets if they cant take care of em...part i dont like is there talking about trapping em or killing em...why not just relocate em..

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        • #5
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          They want to kill them instead of relocation cause it will be cheaper and easier for them. Its wrong, so thats why I think they should let them be. And about the Nile eating the fox, dont forget two feet of the monitor is its tail. So the body is at most three feet, to small for a fox....... I think.

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          • #6
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            yea i agree.leave them alone..plus the chipping sounds like a good idea..would help stop " dumping " of pets... whats sad is it prolly cost more to hire some 1 to track em down and kill them vs relocating them....i think we all need to mass email them and say leave em alone...

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            • #7
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              ok heres another 1

              Pet lizards eat dead owner

              By RANDALL CHASE-- The Associated Press

              DOVER, Del. (AP) -- Several flesh-eating pet lizards were found feasting on the corpse of their owner in his apartment, police said.

              Police were called to Ronald Huff's apartment in Newark, Del., on Wednesday after a relative became worried because Huff failed to show up for work, investigators said.

              Officers found Huff's body on the floor, with his pet Nile monitor lizards feeding on his flesh. The state medical examiner is investigating the cause of death.

              Huff, 42, had last been seen Sunday, New Castle County police said.

              Workers with the Delaware Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals recovered seven lizards, the largest measuring 6 feet long and weighing 25 pounds.

              "They're alive and well," said SPCA director John Caldwell. He added that one of the reptiles recovered was acting aggressively, "actually going toward you, mouth open."

              Caldwell said the lizards have small but very sharp teeth and muscular, whip-like tails that can seriously injure a person. In the wild, they eat eggs, birds and other animals, he said.

              "In captivity, we feed them raw chicken and liver. You can also feed them hard-boiled eggs," he said.

              The SPCA will try to place the lizards with zoos or educational groups, Caldwell said. Barring that, they will be euthanized.

              The lizards are considered exotic pets in Delaware and cannot be acquired without a permit from the state Department of Agriculture.

              State veterinarian Dr. H.W. Towers said the department stopped issuing such permits for New Castle County residents in 1997 after the county passed an ordinance to stop the proliferation of exotic pets.

              Caldwell said he was told that Huff was granted an exotic pet permit several years ago. Towers said he didn't know, however, if Huff had permits for all the lizards.

              "If somebody had come for seven monitor lizards, somebody would have said something to me," Towers said.



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              • #8
                Re:Nile Monitor Lizards in Fla.

                is it just me or the lizz's getting a bad name ??

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                • #9
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                  Well If that is true, what you expect. The owner died, there was no food for the nile's what they got to do? lol well its pretty nasty, but its not like they killed him, he died from something else, they were just hungry and smelled meat. The article tries to put the monitors at fault, geesh.

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                  • #10
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                    i totally agree with welsh the guy was dead and they were hungry they did not kill the man lol and then eat him like the article said.


                    LEE

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                    • #11
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                      The article didn't exactly say that the monitors killed the guy, but I can see where immature, unlearned people would get that Idea from the article. (NO, I'm not talking about you Lee!!!!! ) Why are people so stupid and so afraid of things they don't understand?!!!!! I guess it's just human paranoia!!!!

                      As far as the loose monitors, if it's real!!! I would have to say, that relocation, though probably the most humane thing to do and the safest for the floridian environment, would not really be in the best interest of the monitors. This is pretty much now their home now, this is the food they have grown adjusted to eating, this is the environment they have become accustomed to. I feel that they should pretty much deal with it. Unfortunantly, Steve is right, just another slap in the face for those of us who actually care for these animals. Soon, all exotics will be illegal and be confescated!!!


                      The thing I don't understand is....They make all these laws for the care of exotics and other pets for that matter. Alot of pets you must have a license for or you are limited in the number you have and many of other stupid laws that are suppose to protect the public and supposedly the animals themselve. My question is, why do they let any moron have a child? They will let any idiot get pregnant, have a child, heck have as many children as they want. They are allowed to live off the state for ever and a day, using all of our Taxes that we pay. They put no limits on them, no licenses on them, Heck for the most part, no laws on them. But for those of us who want to care for exotics and other animals, who have the ability, the knowledge base and the love for these creatures, get the ringer and have to pay for all these licensing, don't get any help for anyone and in fact get down graded for even wanting to care for them? I just don't understand!!!!!! OK, that's my rant for the moment.

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                      • #12
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                        o ok i see how it is going to be EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMMFAO yea u are right evil y do they let people have so many kids but won't let us have as many reptiles we want as long as they are in good health u know.

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                        • #13
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                          Well one reason they dont put permits and kids is that they arent really dangerous ( well besides chucky ). Stupid people will pay big bucks to get a Black mamba, indigo snake, whatever wich is a big threat to anyone near it. All it needs to do is escape, slither down the street, bite a kid or even an adult, and there is a huge lawsuit. Dont get me wrong, I totally agree with you two, but I can understand why there are license needed for certain types of animals. They are just trying to protect the public.

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                          • #14
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                            i can under stand why they have permits and i can see why there shouldnt be permits...i think chipping them would be a good idea in case they get dumped...but chipping cost $$$$$..so thats the downside of it,,

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                            • #15
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                              I think for certain reptiles, nothing wrong with if people want them, they would need a permit, most of the time its free or very little and maybe micro chip the reptile. it would cut back on people releasing them when they get tired of them.. Keep in mind this problem is being caused more by the impulse pet store buyer, not the caring retile nut like us..

                              Steve

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